Long time no see, glad to have you back bud!!! It seems the upgrade to my new spam filter fixed the situation, since you are no longer blocked from discussions. Also, when you have time, It’d help personalize the conversation if you got your own gravatar. It’s free and painless, yet it adds a lot of value to the convo if people can atleast see something from you, instead of that generic picture I have up. Just look at how much value my own personal picture adds.

As far as inner city liberalism vs. limousine liberalism, I’ve been meaning to blog on that for some time now. It is a lot easier to identify in person than write about, but I would say the main differences lie in the social issues. For example, inner city liberalism tends to be much more religious, or atleast much more tolerant of religion. Limousine liberalism, on the other hand, tends to be strongly secular, and in many cases anti-religious. So, for example, you would have a higher percentage of inner city liberals being against abortion, gay marriage, and tolerant of religious symbols in public.

Than there is the issue of priorities. Inner city liberalism tends to be much more interested in today, and practical about the solutions. Limousine liberalism tends to be much more utopian, and always pursuing some ideal goal no matter what the costs. A good example of this would be environmental issues. Limousine liberals would place a much higher priority on environmental regulations, Kyoto, and other policies that are geared towards improving the environment (whether they actually do that is a separate topic), whereas inner city liberals would place a higher priority on the amount of job losses that they would suffer because of such regulations.

Like I said above, I am much more comfortable with inner city liberalism, in fact, I would argue that I still am an inner city liberal, I just have different ways (I would say better ways) of accomplishing the same goals. However, limousine liberalism is something very foreign to me, something that I would never be able to relate to.

Btw, me, talk nonsense?!?!? That’s NONSENSE!! LOL

As far as my liberal response goes, I only say hell no to limousine liberalism, inner city liberalism, on the other hand, is something I am much more comfortable with. Limousine liberalism is something I can’t even begin to comprehend.

The HP I know woulda written up there “… the answer is hell no.” Come on dude, no holding back.

Let’s get some Pho tomorrow foo.

So we have three choices here, A. Card’s research is wrong on the minimum wage, or B. Card’s research is wrong regarding immigration, or C. All of Card’s research is wrong.

Personally, because I have seen so much more research rebutting Card’s minimum wage conclusions, for example, here, here, and here, I choose A. Of course that doesn’t mean C can’t be right, but given Card’s status in the economic community, I figure he deserves atleast the benefit of the doubt, which again is why I choose A.

Thanks for chiming in!!

Didnt David Card also conclude that a modest raise in the minimum wage would have little or no effect on employment loss? You even have a link to the WSJ and their editorial response to Kerry and his proposed increase on the minimum wage, arguing the opposite… If this is true, imagine that for a minute,…wouldnt much of the propaganda coming from “far right” and big business about huge amounts of job losses be more of a ploy to weild their power to maintain wages low?

See below:

“Our findings suggest that the efficiency aspects of a modest rise in the minimum wage are overstated…. [W]e find no evidence for a large negative employment effect of higher minimum wages. Even in the earlier literature, however, the magnitude of the predicted employment losses from a much higher minimum wage would be small: the evidence at hand is relevant only for a moderate range of minimum wages, such as those that prevailed in the U.S. labor market during the past few decades. Within this range, however, there is little reason to believe that increases in the minimum wage will generate large employment losses.
~David Card and Alan B. Krueger, Myth and Measurement: The New Economics of the Minimum Wage, (Princeton: Princeton University Press, 1995, p. 393). “

Verdad. A little innocent overgeneralization and liberals get all bent out of shape. Why can’t we all just hug and get along, that’s what I say. LOL

Nebur,

Closet liberal huh? Well, that depends on how you define the term liberal. Have you read “Hard Heads, Soft Hearts: Tough-Minded Economics for a Just Society” by Alan S. Blinder? That is one of my favorite economic books, which is why I list it so prominently on one of my bookshelfs. Alan Blinder, professor of economics at Princeton University, is considered to fall on the liberal side of economics and he and my second (first is Thomas Sowell, of course) all time favorite economist, Milton Friedman - someone who clearly falls on the conservative side - have had their differences.

The reason I bring up Alan Blinder is that his title means something, it shows that one must have a soft heart yet a hard head to deal with economics, specifically if your goal is more than mere rhetoric and is actually for positive change, especially for the members of society that need it most.

So in the same spirit of Alan Blinder, I take the best of both political philosophies. Take the heart of the liberals and the mind of the conservatives, mesh the two together, and you get minority conservatives, atleast this minority conservative.

…oh damn, look at all of the responses my “Roberts Confirmation Decoder” just got, I don’t know where I’ll find the time to give everybody the much needed response they deserve. Hopefully tonight I could sit down and respond to what I can….

Actually, I have no bone to pick with this post. I think you are a closet liberal. Come out, come out, wherever you are!