Comments on: The Spanish AND The Aztecs Were Vicious Fighters http://hispanicpundit.com/2006/09/06/the-spanish-and-the-aztecs-were-vicious-fighters/ Thu, 24 May 2012 00:13:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: Cesar http://hispanicpundit.com/2006/09/06/the-spanish-and-the-aztecs-were-vicious-fighters/#comment-204630 Cesar Thu, 16 Apr 2009 15:30:19 +0000 http://hispanicpundit.com/2006/09/06/the-spanish-and-the-aztecs-were-vicious-fighters/#comment-204630 The best of history is when we really learned something about, and applied such knowledje to modern life.I love the spaniard that didn't come just for gold and territorial purposes, and the indians that dislike sacrifices, these indians were a very family oriented people, i'll rather think that i'm mexican that came from this two, and of course i will restrain myself from repeating the same bad attitudes and mistakes, to all of you,"learn to love thy brother and neighbor" thx. The best of history is when we really learned something about, and applied such knowledje to modern life.I love the spaniard that didn’t come just for gold and territorial purposes, and the indians that dislike sacrifices, these indians were a very family oriented people, i’ll rather think that i’m mexican that came from this two, and of course i will restrain myself from repeating the same bad attitudes and mistakes, to all of you,”learn to love thy brother and neighbor” thx.

]]> By: Karmen http://hispanicpundit.com/2006/09/06/the-spanish-and-the-aztecs-were-vicious-fighters/#comment-201208 Karmen Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:50:27 +0000 http://hispanicpundit.com/2006/09/06/the-spanish-and-the-aztecs-were-vicious-fighters/#comment-201208 The Catholic Church has been paid to write history all through the ages. Thry are told what to say by the ones who come as friends and have destroyed entire cultures and buried their ancient secrets with them. 5t is a well known fact that every race that has been conquered has been lied about. If you think a coldhearted murderer is going to share their dark secrets you with the world you had better wake up! Nothing has been proven of what has been said of any indigicous race. They keeping finding new evidence desproving that these anient people were the terrible beasts they made them out to be. It will all be revealed someday and many people are going to be surprised that what they learned in school is not true. The problem is people are easily brainwashed by greedy politicians with false promises. They instigate chaos amongst people to weaken them so they can take over. I have heard many horrible stories about many indiginous people that were conquered and I don't believe any of them. I see that the descendants of those people are kind and gentle. Their customs, art, dances, and ancient beliefs show it. I believe we carry our ancestral history in our dna. To blindly believe a book that was the result of the deaths of thousands of innocent people and was written and paid for with their blood makes no sense I see a trail of blood that goes all around the world showing the path the explorers traveled. I was taught out of books in school about about the blood thirsty tribes and the great heroes that conquered them. Savages that wwere waiting to eat them, scalp them, and held blood sacrifices People that, if they happen to be your ancesters, they would hope that they would bring enought embarassment upon you that they would quickly be forgotten and never spoken of again. They would forget about the kindness in the eyes of their victims when they arrived to their land. THe gifts the sharing of food and and the best of what ever they had. They conquered all people in much the same way. Taking their kindness for a weakness and catching them unaware. COuld it be that everybody else in the whole world is horrible except those who offering friendship all the while plotted to kill. Could it be that these so called heroes are the good guys because the they comitted hideious crimes against the indiginous men, women, and children? If you believe that then you need some serious help! The facr is they were recieved with love and kindness. They were treated in ways that were extremely inhuman and left without a voice to tell their stories. It was a cruel and heartless act without justification and that is all I want to know. I have no need for history books. Lies have endings truth is eternal. The Catholic Church has been paid to write history all through the ages. Thry are told what to say by the ones who come as friends and have destroyed entire cultures and buried their ancient secrets with them. 5t is a well known fact that every race that has been conquered has been lied about. If you think a coldhearted murderer is going to share their dark secrets you with the world you had better wake up! Nothing has been proven of what has been said of any indigicous race. They keeping finding new evidence desproving that these anient people were the terrible beasts they made them out to be. It will all be revealed someday and many people are going to be surprised that what they learned in school is not true. The problem is people are easily brainwashed by greedy politicians with false promises. They instigate chaos amongst people to weaken them so they can take over. I have heard many horrible stories about many indiginous people that were conquered and I don’t believe any of them. I see that the descendants of those people are kind and gentle. Their customs, art, dances, and ancient beliefs show it. I believe we carry our ancestral history in our dna. To blindly believe a book that was the result of the deaths of thousands of innocent people and was written and paid for with their blood makes no sense I see a trail of blood that goes all around the world showing the path the explorers traveled. I was taught out of books in school about about the blood thirsty tribes and the great heroes that conquered them. Savages that wwere waiting to eat them, scalp them, and held blood sacrifices People that, if they happen to be your ancesters, they would hope that they would bring enought embarassment upon you that they would quickly be forgotten and never spoken of again. They would forget about the kindness in the eyes of their victims when they arrived to their land. THe gifts the sharing of food and and the best of what ever they had. They conquered all people in much the same way. Taking their kindness for a weakness and catching them unaware. COuld it be that everybody else in the whole world is horrible except those who offering friendship all the while plotted to kill. Could it be that these so called heroes are the good guys because the they comitted hideious crimes against the indiginous men, women, and children? If you believe that then you need some serious help! The facr is they were recieved with love and kindness. They were treated in ways that were extremely inhuman and left without a voice to tell their stories.
It was a cruel and heartless act without justification and that is all I want to know. I have no need for history books. Lies have endings truth is eternal.

]]> By: DD http://hispanicpundit.com/2006/09/06/the-spanish-and-the-aztecs-were-vicious-fighters/#comment-114982 DD Wed, 04 Oct 2006 19:10:07 +0000 http://hispanicpundit.com/2006/09/06/the-spanish-and-the-aztecs-were-vicious-fighters/#comment-114982 Good post, HP. Thanks for shedding light on this situation. This is a subject that isn't discussed enough. You are right, the Aztecs and the Spanish were vicious fighters. My read and studies of the Aztec Empire is that they believed in prophetic messages and certainly many 'prophetic' signs led the Aztecs to believe that Cortez was Quetzalcoatl. That was the demise of the Aztec Empire, truly, in my humble opinion. Their belief in what was prophecized to them as written in the Codices. Futhermore, the Aztecs made enemies with other tribes because they would take from them.....people to sacrifice to the Aztec gods. Other tribes did not want to sacrifice their own people, yet they had to submit the leadership of the Aztecs. The Aztecs were feared in that era.....and I believe 'karma' played a role and this backfired when their Empire came tumbling down. It's a good idea to study and remember history, particularly when it is a difficult subject and many seem to be misled. There is a lot of information regarding this subject....and it is tedious to study this subject. In any event......good work. ;) You are right.....the Aztecs were 'more vicious' than the Spaniards because of the thousands of innocent blood shed that was performed. There was more blood shed performed by their own people than what the Spaniards shed. Besides........<b>the Aztecs were warned by Quetzalcoatl to stop the human sacrifices, and they did not heed the warning</b>. In fact, legends support that the former ruler, Quetzalcoatl was kicked out of the community because of his strong stance against the human sacrifices. Good post, HP.

Thanks for shedding light on this situation. This is a subject that isn’t discussed enough.

You are right, the Aztecs and the Spanish were vicious fighters. My read and studies of the Aztec Empire is that they believed in prophetic messages and certainly many ‘prophetic’ signs led the Aztecs to believe that Cortez was Quetzalcoatl.

That was the demise of the Aztec Empire, truly, in my humble opinion. Their belief in what was prophecized to them as written in the Codices.

Futhermore, the Aztecs made enemies with other tribes because they would take from them…..people to sacrifice to the Aztec gods. Other tribes did not want to sacrifice their own people, yet they had to submit the leadership of the Aztecs. The Aztecs were feared in that era…..and I believe ‘karma’ played a role and this backfired when their Empire came tumbling down.

It’s a good idea to study and remember history, particularly when it is a difficult subject and many seem to be misled. There is a lot of information regarding this subject….and it is tedious to study this subject.

In any event……good work. ;)

You are right…..the Aztecs were ‘more vicious’ than the Spaniards because of the thousands of innocent blood shed that was performed. There was more blood shed performed by their own people than what the Spaniards shed.

Besides……..the Aztecs were warned by Quetzalcoatl to stop the human sacrifices, and they did not heed the warning. In fact, legends support that the former ruler, Quetzalcoatl was kicked out of the community because of his strong stance against the human sacrifices.

]]> By: Yolanda O> Kortight http://hispanicpundit.com/2006/09/06/the-spanish-and-the-aztecs-were-vicious-fighters/#comment-114660 Yolanda O> Kortight Mon, 02 Oct 2006 17:56:42 +0000 http://hispanicpundit.com/2006/09/06/the-spanish-and-the-aztecs-were-vicious-fighters/#comment-114660 Whoever wrote this article, SHOULD give references. Everthing is biassed and, by the way, who is "Martinez"? Whoever wrote this article, SHOULD give references. Everthing is biassed and, by the way, who is “Martinez”?

]]> By: HispanicPundit http://hispanicpundit.com/2006/09/06/the-spanish-and-the-aztecs-were-vicious-fighters/#comment-112486 HispanicPundit Wed, 13 Sep 2006 05:10:24 +0000 http://hispanicpundit.com/2006/09/06/the-spanish-and-the-aztecs-were-vicious-fighters/#comment-112486 <strong>SG</strong>, I don't want to talk about it. LOL. <strong>irasali</strong>, I don't read too much fiction, but when I do, Gary Jennings is certainly not among them. Besides, who wants to read about a bunch of vicious killers anyway? LOL. I kid... <strong>Julissa</strong>, Aw, you can't be serious. Surely you knew that I was cutting them some slack. Come on now, these are Chicano Studies type Mexicans, they <em>demand</em> to be given slack - you know, like affirmative action....Okay, that was mean, I kid...Sorta ;-) <strong>cindylu</strong>, Well, if that's the case, then she got what she deserved. I couldn't think of a more sweeter revenge. :-) SG,

I don’t want to talk about it. LOL.

irasali,

I don’t read too much fiction, but when I do, Gary Jennings is certainly not among them. Besides, who wants to read about a bunch of vicious killers anyway? LOL. I kid…

Julissa,

Aw, you can’t be serious. Surely you knew that I was cutting them some slack. Come on now, these are Chicano Studies type Mexicans, they demand to be given slack - you know, like affirmative action….Okay, that was mean, I kid…Sorta ;-)

cindylu,

Well, if that’s the case, then she got what she deserved. I couldn’t think of a more sweeter revenge. :-)

]]> By: cindylu http://hispanicpundit.com/2006/09/06/the-spanish-and-the-aztecs-were-vicious-fighters/#comment-112473 cindylu Wed, 13 Sep 2006 04:08:02 +0000 http://hispanicpundit.com/2006/09/06/the-spanish-and-the-aztecs-were-vicious-fighters/#comment-112473 SG, I know who broke his heart and why he's so bitter. She's probably dating an indigenista type now. See why he's mad? SG,
I know who broke his heart and why he’s so bitter. She’s probably dating an indigenista type now. See why he’s mad?

]]> By: Julissa http://hispanicpundit.com/2006/09/06/the-spanish-and-the-aztecs-were-vicious-fighters/#comment-112390 Julissa Tue, 12 Sep 2006 16:45:48 +0000 http://hispanicpundit.com/2006/09/06/the-spanish-and-the-aztecs-were-vicious-fighters/#comment-112390 LOL - comments. They got you good HP ;) LOL - comments. They got you good HP ;)

]]> By: irasali http://hispanicpundit.com/2006/09/06/the-spanish-and-the-aztecs-were-vicious-fighters/#comment-112225 irasali Mon, 11 Sep 2006 20:17:50 +0000 http://hispanicpundit.com/2006/09/06/the-spanish-and-the-aztecs-were-vicious-fighters/#comment-112225 say what you like, and as often as you like. you're right you shouldn't censor yourself. however, me thinks you've also been reading too much gary jennings. say what you like, and as often as you like. you’re right you shouldn’t censor yourself. however, me thinks you’ve also been reading too much gary jennings.

]]> By: Wil http://hispanicpundit.com/2006/09/06/the-spanish-and-the-aztecs-were-vicious-fighters/#comment-112035 Wil Sun, 10 Sep 2006 20:41:40 +0000 http://hispanicpundit.com/2006/09/06/the-spanish-and-the-aztecs-were-vicious-fighters/#comment-112035 <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztec#Human_sacrifice" rel="nofollow">Interesting</a>:<blockquote>In the writings of Bernardino de Sahagún, Aztec "anonymous informants" defended the practice of human sacrifice by asserting that it was not very different from the European way of waging warfare: Europeans killed the warriors in battle, Aztecs killed the warriors after the battle.Accounts by the Tlaxcaltecas, the primary enemy of the Aztecs at the time of the Spanish Conquest, show that at least some of them considered it an honor to be sacrificed. In one legend, the warrior Tlahuicole was freed by the Aztecs but eventually returned of his own volition to die in ritual sacrifice. Tlaxcala also practiced the human sacrifice of captured Aztec warriors.</blockquote> Interesting:
In the writings of Bernardino de Sahagún, Aztec “anonymous informants” defended the practice of human sacrifice by asserting that it was not very different from the European way of waging warfare: Europeans killed the warriors in battle, Aztecs killed the warriors after the battle.Accounts by the Tlaxcaltecas, the primary enemy of the Aztecs at the time of the Spanish Conquest, show that at least some of them considered it an honor to be sacrificed. In one legend, the warrior Tlahuicole was freed by the Aztecs but eventually returned of his own volition to die in ritual sacrifice. Tlaxcala also practiced the human sacrifice of captured Aztec warriors.

]]> By: SG http://hispanicpundit.com/2006/09/06/the-spanish-and-the-aztecs-were-vicious-fighters/#comment-111514 SG Thu, 07 Sep 2006 23:44:15 +0000 http://hispanicpundit.com/2006/09/06/the-spanish-and-the-aztecs-were-vicious-fighters/#comment-111514 Come on, HP, just give us the girl's name. Who was the Chicano/a Studies student that broke your heart? Or was it the professora? Ahhh, me thinks me onto something... Come on, HP, just give us the girl’s name. Who was the Chicano/a Studies student that broke your heart? Or was it the professora? Ahhh, me thinks me onto something…

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