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	<title>Comments on: The Traps Of Universal Healthcare</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: msondo</title>
		<link>http://hispanicpundit.com/2008/03/06/the-traps-of-universal-healthcare/#comment-181411</link>
		<dc:creator>msondo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 03:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I directed that at Joni's comment.  I'm not really sure where it fits in the healthcare debate.  Just sounds like a poorly veiled rant against hispanics and the fact that we all use government handouts to buy crack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I directed that at Joni&#8217;s comment.  I&#8217;m not really sure where it fits in the healthcare debate.  Just sounds like a poorly veiled rant against hispanics and the fact that we all use government handouts to buy crack.</p>
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		<title>By: HispanicPundit</title>
		<link>http://hispanicpundit.com/2008/03/06/the-traps-of-universal-healthcare/#comment-181410</link>
		<dc:creator>HispanicPundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 03:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hispanicpundit.com/2008/03/06/the-traps-of-universal-healthcare/#comment-181410</guid>
		<description>Anecdotal evidence is not everything...but its also not nothing. Its also, btw, a criticism one make to both sides of the health care debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anecdotal evidence is not everything&#8230;but its also not nothing. Its also, btw, a criticism one make to both sides of the health care debate.</p>
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		<title>By: msondo</title>
		<link>http://hispanicpundit.com/2008/03/06/the-traps-of-universal-healthcare/#comment-181394</link>
		<dc:creator>msondo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 21:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hispanicpundit.com/2008/03/06/the-traps-of-universal-healthcare/#comment-181394</guid>
		<description>I suppose the most rational course of action to any issue is to use a singular anecdotal piece of evidence and apply it to an entire subset, thus accurately proving a point predecided by personal bias.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose the most rational course of action to any issue is to use a singular anecdotal piece of evidence and apply it to an entire subset, thus accurately proving a point predecided by personal bias.</p>
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		<title>By: Jodi</title>
		<link>http://hispanicpundit.com/2008/03/06/the-traps-of-universal-healthcare/#comment-181390</link>
		<dc:creator>Jodi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 20:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hispanicpundit.com/2008/03/06/the-traps-of-universal-healthcare/#comment-181390</guid>
		<description>We have a young hispanic girl at work...she popped out 3 kids, she is only 19.


She got her stimuls check,  ( 1500 ) did she save it to buy school clothes for her 3 kids? No she got a freaken tatoo.

Went out drinking, bought cocaine...financed by the US Government...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have a young hispanic girl at work&#8230;she popped out 3 kids, she is only 19.</p>
<p>She got her stimuls check,  ( 1500 ) did she save it to buy school clothes for her 3 kids? No she got a freaken tatoo.</p>
<p>Went out drinking, bought cocaine&#8230;financed by the US Government&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jodi</title>
		<link>http://hispanicpundit.com/2008/03/06/the-traps-of-universal-healthcare/#comment-181389</link>
		<dc:creator>Jodi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 20:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hispanicpundit.com/2008/03/06/the-traps-of-universal-healthcare/#comment-181389</guid>
		<description>Hispanics have asked and HAVE recieved for the American goverment, substancial aid.

Do the Hispanics understand, you have to work for a living?(other then the easy way selling drugs) 

America is in a crisis, because the Hispanics take...take...and don't want to give back.

That is why, it's not a racist thing...but America is on it's knees, Hispanics, want ppl to feed them, and not work</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hispanics have asked and HAVE recieved for the American goverment, substancial aid.</p>
<p>Do the Hispanics understand, you have to work for a living?(other then the easy way selling drugs) </p>
<p>America is in a crisis, because the Hispanics take&#8230;take&#8230;and don&#8217;t want to give back.</p>
<p>That is why, it&#8217;s not a racist thing&#8230;but America is on it&#8217;s knees, Hispanics, want ppl to feed them, and not work</p>
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		<title>By: new health care</title>
		<link>http://hispanicpundit.com/2008/03/06/the-traps-of-universal-healthcare/#comment-180922</link>
		<dc:creator>new health care</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 12:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hispanicpundit.com/2008/03/06/the-traps-of-universal-healthcare/#comment-180922</guid>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>new health care&#8230;</strong></p>
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		<title>By: HispanicPundit</title>
		<link>http://hispanicpundit.com/2008/03/06/the-traps-of-universal-healthcare/#comment-174402</link>
		<dc:creator>HispanicPundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hispanicpundit.com/2008/03/06/the-traps-of-universal-healthcare/#comment-174402</guid>
		<description>Now you are going too far. I never said it wasn't bad, I never said 'all'.

My belief is that it is 'bad' just not the tragedy many make it out to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now you are going too far. I never said it wasn&#8217;t bad, I never said &#8216;all&#8217;.</p>
<p>My belief is that it is &#8216;bad&#8217; just not the tragedy many make it out to be.</p>
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		<title>By: msondo</title>
		<link>http://hispanicpundit.com/2008/03/06/the-traps-of-universal-healthcare/#comment-174395</link>
		<dc:creator>msondo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hispanicpundit.com/2008/03/06/the-traps-of-universal-healthcare/#comment-174395</guid>
		<description>Hmm, you know, you are absolutely right.  47 million isn't bad, and I'm sure all of those people either don't need it, don't deserve it, or don't want it.  Medicaid is also sufficient as well for those who don't have "normal" insurance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, you know, you are absolutely right.  47 million isn&#8217;t bad, and I&#8217;m sure all of those people either don&#8217;t need it, don&#8217;t deserve it, or don&#8217;t want it.  Medicaid is also sufficient as well for those who don&#8217;t have &#8220;normal&#8221; insurance.</p>
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		<title>By: HispanicPundit</title>
		<link>http://hispanicpundit.com/2008/03/06/the-traps-of-universal-healthcare/#comment-174393</link>
		<dc:creator>HispanicPundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hispanicpundit.com/2008/03/06/the-traps-of-universal-healthcare/#comment-174393</guid>
		<description>&lt;i&gt;I do think that 40 million uninsured Americans is unacceptable. Our healthcare system is not functioning at a sufficient level if such a high percentage of Americans cannot afford healthcare, especially since many of these people are hard working individuals.&lt;/i&gt;

This is a big assumption. Remember, 'the poor' already have health insurance...medicaid. So if you have 40 million uninsured, you have to immediately be suspect as to what their status is - cuz poor is certainly not it.

Greg Mankiw sheds light on &lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/04/business/04view.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;who exactly these people are&lt;/a&gt; (I highly recommend &lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/04/business/04view.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;the full article as well&lt;/a&gt;):

"To start with, the 47 million includes about 10 million residents who are not American citizens. Many are illegal immigrants. Even if we had national health insurance, they would probably not be covered.

The number also fails to take full account of Medicaid. the government’s health program for the poor. For instance, it counts millions of the poor who are eligible for Medicaid but have not yet applied. These individuals, who are healthier, on average, than those who are enrolled, could always apply if they ever needed significant medical care. They are uninsured in name only.

The 47 million also includes many who could buy insurance but haven’t. The Census Bureau reports that 18 million of the uninsured have annual household income of more than $50,000, which puts them in the top half of the income distribution. About a quarter of the uninsured have been offered employer-provided insurance but declined coverage".

Many more are probably recent college graduates in their early 20's who don't need health insurance and would rather be compensated in the form of higher pay than in a coverage they will rarely use. I know I would.

So again, this 'tregedy' you speak of is anything but.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I do think that 40 million uninsured Americans is unacceptable. Our healthcare system is not functioning at a sufficient level if such a high percentage of Americans cannot afford healthcare, especially since many of these people are hard working individuals.</i></p>
<p>This is a big assumption. Remember, &#8216;the poor&#8217; already have health insurance&#8230;medicaid. So if you have 40 million uninsured, you have to immediately be suspect as to what their status is - cuz poor is certainly not it.</p>
<p>Greg Mankiw sheds light on <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/04/business/04view.html" rel="nofollow">who exactly these people are</a> (I highly recommend <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/04/business/04view.html" rel="nofollow">the full article as well</a>):</p>
<p>&#8220;To start with, the 47 million includes about 10 million residents who are not American citizens. Many are illegal immigrants. Even if we had national health insurance, they would probably not be covered.</p>
<p>The number also fails to take full account of Medicaid. the government’s health program for the poor. For instance, it counts millions of the poor who are eligible for Medicaid but have not yet applied. These individuals, who are healthier, on average, than those who are enrolled, could always apply if they ever needed significant medical care. They are uninsured in name only.</p>
<p>The 47 million also includes many who could buy insurance but haven’t. The Census Bureau reports that 18 million of the uninsured have annual household income of more than $50,000, which puts them in the top half of the income distribution. About a quarter of the uninsured have been offered employer-provided insurance but declined coverage&#8221;.</p>
<p>Many more are probably recent college graduates in their early 20&#8217;s who don&#8217;t need health insurance and would rather be compensated in the form of higher pay than in a coverage they will rarely use. I know I would.</p>
<p>So again, this &#8216;tregedy&#8217; you speak of is anything but.</p>
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		<title>By: msondo</title>
		<link>http://hispanicpundit.com/2008/03/06/the-traps-of-universal-healthcare/#comment-174004</link>
		<dc:creator>msondo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 06:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hispanicpundit.com/2008/03/06/the-traps-of-universal-healthcare/#comment-174004</guid>
		<description>To be honest, I have no clue.  I don't know enough about healthcare.  I'd love to study it in detail and look at what other countries are doing.  Surely, they are making mistakes, but I'm willing to believe that we can learn from anybody.

I do think that 40 million uninsured Americans is unacceptable.  Our healthcare system is not functioning at a sufficient level if such a high percentage of Americans cannot afford healthcare, especially since many of these people are hard working individuals.  This is the same, in my humble opinion, as saying that 25% unemployment during the Great Depression is unacceptable.  Our economic system did not work then just as our healthcare system does not work now.

Just as we evolved automatic economic stabilizers to maintain acceptable economic levels of unemployment and inflation, I think we should do the same for healthcare.  Just as government policy and private stimuli are used to maintain acceptable levels, we should find a similar solution.  How that will happen, I'm not sure.  I don't claim to know much about healthcare but I'm sure a solution is out there.

Every decision has a cost, right?  I suppose we just have to balance out what we are willing to give in order to get something a bit more acceptable.  

The 40 million Americans without insurance are not part of the current inputs into the healthcare industry.  Servicing them will not necessarily have such a negative impact since they were not inputs to begin with.  Servicing them will only increase the market perhaps similar to how the government increases investment and the money supply but purchasing bonds. Thus this possibly could create further growth within the industry?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be honest, I have no clue.  I don&#8217;t know enough about healthcare.  I&#8217;d love to study it in detail and look at what other countries are doing.  Surely, they are making mistakes, but I&#8217;m willing to believe that we can learn from anybody.</p>
<p>I do think that 40 million uninsured Americans is unacceptable.  Our healthcare system is not functioning at a sufficient level if such a high percentage of Americans cannot afford healthcare, especially since many of these people are hard working individuals.  This is the same, in my humble opinion, as saying that 25% unemployment during the Great Depression is unacceptable.  Our economic system did not work then just as our healthcare system does not work now.</p>
<p>Just as we evolved automatic economic stabilizers to maintain acceptable economic levels of unemployment and inflation, I think we should do the same for healthcare.  Just as government policy and private stimuli are used to maintain acceptable levels, we should find a similar solution.  How that will happen, I&#8217;m not sure.  I don&#8217;t claim to know much about healthcare but I&#8217;m sure a solution is out there.</p>
<p>Every decision has a cost, right?  I suppose we just have to balance out what we are willing to give in order to get something a bit more acceptable.  </p>
<p>The 40 million Americans without insurance are not part of the current inputs into the healthcare industry.  Servicing them will not necessarily have such a negative impact since they were not inputs to begin with.  Servicing them will only increase the market perhaps similar to how the government increases investment and the money supply but purchasing bonds. Thus this possibly could create further growth within the industry?</p>
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